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Why do cloud variables only support numbers?

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CodeExplorer92

Posted on June 16, 2016 • Beginner

🤔 Cloud variables limitation question

Hey everyone! I just discovered cloud variables in Scratch and I’m super excited about all the possibilities! But then I found out that cloud variables can only store numbers, not text or letters. 😕

I had so many cool ideas for projects that would need to store usernames, messages, or other text data in the cloud. Why is there this limitation? Is there a technical reason, or will this change in the future?

Any insights would be really helpful! Thanks in advance! 🙏

ST

ScratchTeacher_Alex

Replied 45 minutes later • ⭐ Best Answer

Great question @CodeExplorer92! There are actually several important reasons why cloud variables are limited to numbers only:

🛡️ Safety and Moderation

The primary reason is community safety. If cloud variables could store text, people could create chat rooms or messaging systems within Scratch projects. This would make it extremely difficult to moderate content and could lead to:

  • Inappropriate language and cyberbullying
  • Sharing of personal information
  • Spam and unwanted content
  • Circumventing Scratch’s community guidelines

🔧 Technical Implementation

Here’s how cloud variables work and why numbers are safer:

flowchart TD A[📱 Your Project] --> B[Cloud Variable Update] B --> C{Data Type Check} C -->|Numbers Only| D[✅ Store in Cloud] C -->|Text/Letters| E[❌ Rejected] D --> F[🌐 Scratch Cloud Server] F --> G[📊 Shared with All Users] E --> H[⚠️ Error Message] H --> I[Use Numbers Instead] style A fill:#e1f5fe style D fill:#e8f5e8 style E fill:#ffebee style F fill:#f3e5f5

💡 Creative Workarounds

Even with number-only limitation, you can still do amazing things! Here are some techniques:

1. Encoding Text as Numbers

    // Convert letters to numbers (A=1, B=2, etc.)
define encode letter (letter)
if <(letter) = [A]> then
set [encoded v] to [1]
end
if <(letter) = [B]> then
set [encoded v] to [2]
end
// ... continue for all letters
  

2. Using Position Codes

    // Store player positions and states
set [☁ player1_x v] to (x position)
set [☁ player1_y v] to (y position)
set [☁ player1_costume v] to (costume [number v])
  

3. Game State Management

    // Store game progress as numbers
set [☁ level_completed v] to [5]  // Level 5 completed
set [☁ high_score v] to [12450]   // Player's best score
set [☁ unlocked_items v] to [1011] // Binary: items 1,3,4 unlocked
  

🔮 Future Possibilities

The Scratch team has mentioned that cloud variables were initially released with numbers only as a testing phase. They wanted to:

  • Test the infrastructure and stability
  • Monitor usage patterns
  • Ensure the system works reliably

While they’ve mentioned potential future features like cloud lists and text support, there’s been no official timeline or confirmation. The safety concerns remain the biggest challenge.

Hope this explains the reasoning! Numbers-only might seem limiting, but with creativity, you can build some really cool multiplayer and data-sharing projects! 😊

CE

CodeExplorer92

Replied 1 hour later

@ScratchTeacher_Alex This is incredibly helpful! Thank you so much! 🎉

I never thought about the safety aspects - that makes total sense. And those encoding techniques are brilliant! I’m definitely going to try the position-based approach for my multiplayer game idea.

Really appreciate the detailed explanation! 👏

DG

DataGuru_Sam

Replied 2 hours later

Adding to @ScratchTeacher_Alex’s excellent explanation! Here’s a practical example of text encoding:

    // Simple username encoding system
define encode username (name)
set [encoded_name v] to [0]
repeat (length of (name))
set [letter v] to (letter (counter) of (name))
change [encoded_name v] by ((letter # of (letter) in [ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ]) * ((26) ^ ((counter) - [1])))
end

// Store in cloud variable
set [☁ player_name v] to (encoded_name)
  

This way you can still share “usernames” through cloud variables, just encoded as numbers! 🔢➡️📝

VB

Vibelf_Community

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