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MultiplayerDev_Jordan

Posted on January 25, 2024 • Advanced

🎮 Need help with multiplayer sprite management system

Hey everyone! I’m working on a board game-style multiplayer project where multiple players can move different game pieces around. I’ve been following some tutorials but I’m struggling with the implementation.

Here’s what I’m trying to achieve:

  • Multiple sprites that any player can move
  • Real-time synchronization across all players
  • Efficient data encoding for cloud variables
  • Proper error handling for network issues
  • Scalable system for adding more sprites

I have a basic system with encoded data types and model lists, but I’m not sure if my approach is correct. The synchronization sometimes fails and I get weird glitches. Any advice on building a robust multiplayer sprite management system? 🤔

NS

NetworkSync_Expert

Replied 2 hours later • ⭐ Best Answer

Great question @MultiplayerDev_Jordan! Managing multiple sprites in multiplayer games is complex. Here’s a comprehensive system:

🏗️ Multiplayer Sprite Architecture

Here’s how a professional multiplayer sprite system works:

flowchart TD A[🎮 Player Input] --> B[📊 Data Encoder] B --> C[☁️ Cloud Variables] C --> D[📡 Network Manager] D --> E[🔍 Data Decoder] E --> F[🎯 Sprite Manager] F --> G[🎨 Visual Updates] subgraph "Data Flow" H["📝 Action Type"] I["🎯 Sprite ID"] J["📍 Position Data"] K["🎨 Visual Data"] L["⏰ Timestamp"] end subgraph "Sprite Management" M["👤 Player Sprites"] N["🎲 Game Pieces"] O["🏆 Collectibles"] P["🌍 Environment"] Q["💥 Effects"] end subgraph "Synchronization" R["🔄 State Sync"] S["📊 Delta Updates"] T["🎯 Prediction"] U["🔧 Correction"] V["📈 Interpolation"] end B --> H H --> I I --> J J --> K K --> L F --> M F --> N F --> O F --> P F --> Q D --> R R --> S S --> T T --> U U --> V subgraph "Error Handling" W["🛡️ Data Validation"] X["🔄 Retry Logic"] Y["📊 Conflict Resolution"] Z["⚠️ Fallback States"] end E --> W W --> X X --> Y Y --> Z style A fill:#e1f5fe style C fill:#fff3e0 style F fill:#c8e6c9 style G fill:#f3e5f5

🔧 Step 1: Advanced Data Encoding System

Create a robust encoding system for multiplayer data:

    // Advanced multiplayer data encoder
when flag clicked
// Initialize data types
delete all of [data types v]
add [SPRITE_MOVE] to [data types v]     // 1
add [SPRITE_ROTATE] to [data types v]   // 2
add [SPRITE_SCALE] to [data types v]    // 3
add [SPRITE_COSTUME] to [data types v]  // 4
add [GAME_STATE] to [data types v]      // 5
add [PLAYER_JOIN] to [data types v]     // 6
add [PLAYER_LEAVE] to [data types v]    // 7

// Initialize sprite registry
delete all of [sprite registry v]
add [Player1] to [sprite registry v]    // 1
add [Player2] to [sprite registry v]    // 2
add [GamePiece1] to [sprite registry v] // 3
add [GamePiece2] to [sprite registry v] // 4
add [Board] to [sprite registry v]      // 5

// Encoding function
define encode sprite update (action type) (sprite id) (x pos) (y pos) (rotation) (scale) (costume)
set [encoded data v] to []

// Add timestamp for ordering
add (round (timer * 1000)) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]

// Add action type
add (action type) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]

// Add sprite ID
add (sprite id) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]

// Add position data
add (round (x pos * 10)) to [encoded data v]  // Precision to 0.1
add [|] to [encoded data v]
add (round (y pos * 10)) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]

// Add optional data based on action type
if <(action type) = [1]> then  // SPRITE_MOVE
// Position already added
else
if <(action type) = [2]> then  // SPRITE_ROTATE
add (round (rotation)) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]
else
if <(action type) = [3]> then  // SPRITE_SCALE
add (round (scale * 100)) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]
else
if <(action type) = [4]> then  // SPRITE_COSTUME
add (costume) to [encoded data v]
add [|] to [encoded data v]
end
end
end
end

// Add checksum for validation
set [checksum v] to [0]
repeat (length of (encoded data))
change [checksum v] by (unicode of (letter (length of (encoded data)) of (encoded data)))
end
add (checksum mod 1000) to [encoded data v]

📡 Step 2: Network Manager with Error Handling

Implement robust network communication:

    // Network manager with error handling
when flag clicked
set [network status v] to [connecting]
set [retry count v] to [0]
set [last update time v] to (timer)

// Main network loop
forever
// Check connection status
if <(timer) - (last update time) > [5]> then
set [network status v] to [timeout]
broadcast [network error v]
end

// Process incoming data
if <not <(☁ multiplayer data) = (last received data)>> then
set [last received data v] to (☁ multiplayer data)
set [last update time v] to (timer)
set [network status v] to [connected]

// Validate and decode data
if <(validate data (☁ multiplayer data)) = [true]> then
decode multiplayer data (☁ multiplayer data)
else
// Request resend
set [☁ request resend] to (join (☁ request resend) [1])
end
end

wait [0.1] seconds
end

// Data validation function
define validate data (data)
set [validation result v] to [false]

// Check if data is not empty
if <(length of (data)) > [0]> then
// Split data by delimiter
set [data parts v] to (split (data) by [|])

// Check minimum required parts
if <(length of [data parts v]) > [5]> then
// Validate timestamp
set [timestamp v] to (item [1] of [data parts v])
if <<(timestamp) > [0]> and <(timestamp) < ((timer * 1000) + 1000)>> then

// Validate checksum
set [received checksum v] to (item (length of [data parts v]) of [data parts v])
set [calculated checksum v] to [0]

repeat ((length of [data parts v]) - [1])
set [part v] to (item (length of [data parts v]) of [data parts v])
repeat (length of (part))
change [calculated checksum v] by (unicode of (letter (length of (part)) of (part)))
end
end

if <(received checksum) = ((calculated checksum) mod [1000])> then
set [validation result v] to [true]
end
end
end
end

🎯 Step 3: Advanced Sprite Manager

Create a sophisticated sprite management system:

    // Advanced sprite manager
define decode multiplayer data (data)
set [data parts v] to (split (data) by [|])

// Extract basic info
set [timestamp v] to (item [1] of [data parts v])
set [action type v] to (item [2] of [data parts v])
set [sprite id v] to (item [3] of [data parts v])
set [sprite name v] to (item (sprite id) of [sprite registry v])

// Check if this is a newer update
set [last timestamp key v] to (join [last_] (sprite name))
if <(timestamp) > (get variable (last timestamp key))> then
set variable (last timestamp key) to (timestamp)

// Process based on action type
if <(action type) = [1]> then  // SPRITE_MOVE
set [target x v] to ((item [4] of [data parts v]) / [10])
set [target y v] to ((item [5] of [data parts v]) / [10])

// Smooth interpolation
broadcast (join [move_] (sprite name))

else
if <(action type) = [2]> then  // SPRITE_ROTATE
set [target rotation v] to (item [6] of [data parts v])
broadcast (join [rotate_] (sprite name))

else
if <(action type) = [3]> then  // SPRITE_SCALE
set [target scale v] to ((item [6] of [data parts v]) / [100])
broadcast (join [scale_] (sprite name))

else
if <(action type) = [4]> then  // SPRITE_COSTUME
set [target costume v] to (item [6] of [data parts v])
broadcast (join [costume_] (sprite name))
end
end
end
end
else
// Ignore outdated update
// Could implement conflict resolution here
end

// Individual sprite response (in each sprite)
when I receive [move_Player1]
if <(my name) = [Player1]> then
// Smooth movement with prediction
set [move start time v] to (timer)
set [start x v] to (x position)
set [start y v] to (y position)

repeat until <<(abs ((x position) - (target x))) < [1]> and <(abs ((y position) - (target y))) < [1]>>
set [progress v] to (((timer) - (move start time)) / [0.5])  // 0.5 second interpolation
if <(progress) > [1]> then
set [progress v] to [1]
end

// Smooth interpolation
set [smooth progress v] to ((progress) * (progress) * ([3] - ([2] * (progress))))  // Smoothstep

go to x: ((start x) + (((target x) - (start x)) * (smooth progress))) y: ((start y) + (((target y) - (start y)) * (smooth progress)))

if <(progress) = [1]> then
stop [this script v]
end
end
end

🔄 Step 4: State Synchronization System

Implement comprehensive state management:

    // State synchronization system
when flag clicked
set [sync interval v] to [0.1]  // Sync every 100ms
set [last sync time v] to (timer)

forever
if <((timer) - (last sync time)) > (sync interval)> then
// Collect all sprite states
delete all of [current states v]

// For each registered sprite
set [sprite index v] to [1]
repeat (length of [sprite registry v])
set [sprite name v] to (item (sprite index) of [sprite registry v])

// Get sprite state
broadcast (join [get_state_] (sprite name))
wait [0.01] seconds  // Allow sprite to respond

// Add to states list
add (join (sprite name) (join [|] (join (sprite x) (join [|] (join (sprite y) (join [|] (join (sprite direction) (join [|] (sprite costume))))))))) to [current states v]

change [sprite index v] by [1]
end

// Check for changes and send updates
if <not <(current states) = (last states)>> then
// Send delta updates only
send delta updates
set [last states v] to (current states)
end

set [last sync time v] to (timer)
end
end

// Delta update system
define send delta updates
set [sprite index v] to [1]
repeat (length of [sprite registry v])
set [current state v] to (item (sprite index) of [current states v])
set [last state v] to (item (sprite index) of [last states v])

if <not <(current state) = (last state)>> then
// Parse state data
set [state parts v] to (split (current state) by [|])
set [sprite name v] to (item [1] of [state parts v])
set [sprite x v] to (item [2] of [state parts v])
set [sprite y v] to (item [3] of [state parts v])
set [sprite dir v] to (item [4] of [state parts v])
set [sprite costume v] to (item [5] of [state parts v])

// Send position update
encode sprite update [1] (sprite index) (sprite x) (sprite y) [0] [100] [1]
set [☁ multiplayer data] to (encoded data)

wait [0.05] seconds  // Prevent cloud variable spam
end

change [sprite index v] by [1]
end

🛡️ Step 5: Conflict Resolution

Handle conflicts when multiple players edit simultaneously:

    // Conflict resolution system
define resolve conflict (sprite name) (local timestamp) (remote timestamp) (local data) (remote data)

// Timestamp-based resolution (last writer wins)
if <(remote timestamp) > (local timestamp)> then
// Accept remote change
apply remote update (sprite name) (remote data)
set [conflict resolution v] to [remote_accepted]
else
if <(local timestamp) > (remote timestamp)> then
// Keep local change, broadcast to others
broadcast local update (sprite name) (local data)
set [conflict resolution v] to [local_kept]
else
// Same timestamp - use player priority
if <(my player id) < (remote player id)> then
// Lower ID wins
broadcast local update (sprite name) (local data)
set [conflict resolution v] to [priority_local]
else
// Higher ID loses
apply remote update (sprite name) (remote data)
set [conflict resolution v] to [priority_remote]
end
end
end

// Log conflict for debugging
add (join [Conflict resolved: ] (join (sprite name) (join [ - ] (conflict resolution)))) to [debug log v]

// Advanced: Operational Transform for simultaneous edits
define operational transform (operation1) (operation2)
// Transform operations to maintain consistency
// This is complex but ensures all players see the same result
// regardless of operation order

if <<(op1 type) = [move]> and <(op2 type) = [move]>> then
// Both are moves - combine them
set [final x v] to (((op1 x) + (op2 x)) / [2])
set [final y v] to (((op1 y) + (op2 y)) / [2])

// Create combined operation
create operation [move] (final x) (final y)
else
// Different operation types - apply in timestamp order
if <(op1 timestamp) < (op2 timestamp)> then
apply operation (operation1)
apply operation (operation2)
else
apply operation (operation2)
apply operation (operation1)
end
end

This comprehensive system handles multiple sprites, error recovery, and conflict resolution for professional multiplayer games! 🎮✨

MD

MultiplayerDev_Jordan

Replied 45 minutes later

@NetworkSync_Expert This is incredible! 🤯 The conflict resolution system is exactly what I needed!

I implemented the basic encoding system and it’s already much more stable. The error handling prevents those weird crashes I was getting.

Quick question - how do you handle players joining mid-game? Do you send the full game state?

NS

NetworkSync_Expert

Replied 20 minutes later

@MultiplayerDev_Jordan Great question! For mid-game joins, use a state snapshot system:

    // Player join handler
when I receive [player joined]
// Send full game state to new player
set [state snapshot v] to []

// Collect all sprite states
repeat (length of [sprite registry v])
set [sprite name v] to (item (length of [sprite registry v]) of [sprite registry v])
add (get full sprite state (sprite name)) to [state snapshot v]
end

// Send snapshot with special marker
encode sprite update [6] [0] [0] [0] [0] [100] [1]  // PLAYER_JOIN type
set [☁ game state snapshot] to (state snapshot)
set [☁ multiplayer data] to (encoded data)

This ensures new players get the complete current state! 🎯

VB

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